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Strange Phones, Clones, Demons and Hidden Experiments
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A working phone booth sat 15 miles down a dirt track in the Mojave Desert, and for years it rang like it was waiting for the right person to pick up. AJ from the Why Files tells the Mojave phone booth story, how one strange number spread through the early internet, and why people drove for hours just to answer a call from a stranger. The farther you get from the city, the louder that ring feels, and we dig into the confessional vibe that made people share secrets they couldn’t say anywhere else.
From there, we jump into the kind of modern rumor that spreads in minutes: the “fake Jim Carrey” speculation, celebrity doubles, and why the internet loves replacement narratives when someone looks or acts different.
We also play and react to an exorcist interview describing alleged demonic possession, including claims of multiple entities, the importance of names, and how curses and trauma get framed as doorways. Whether you take it literally or see it as storytelling, the themes are identity, influence, and who controls the narrative.
Then we hit the most disturbing real-world history in the lineup: the Fernald State School “Science Club,” where boys were fed radioactive cereal as part of nutrition research tied to government funding and corporate interests. We talk informed consent, eugenics-era institutions, and the broader history of U.S. human radiation experiments that targeted people with the least power to say no. If you’re into urban legends, paranormal mysteries, internet folklore, conspiracy talk, and true history that’s hard to shake, this episode is a ride.
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Welcome And Today’s Lineup
SPEAKER_24For the anything and everything and the podcast, Justin and Eric.
SPEAKER_10What's up, everybody?
SPEAKER_11What's happening, y'all? Welcome back to episode 15.
SPEAKER_10Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_11Thank you. Thank you once again for tuning into our podcast. We definitely appreciate it. Welcome back, Justin. Welcome back, Eric.
SPEAKER_10I'm getting ready to rock this thing. Got some good stories for you today. For sure. Yeah, thanks to all our subscribers from the first season to help us out and get us started on this thing. We're cruising. We really appreciate it. Heck yeah. So, yeah, we got some stories for you today about a phone booth in the middle of nowhere. And it actually worked. It kept ringing 24 hours a day. People all over the world calling it. Some strange happenings. Yeah, it is. We'll talk about what the in the world happened to Jim Carrey.
SPEAKER_11This is a crazy one, too. I'm just like, is he still alive? Right. What the heck is going on? You know, he he always said some stuff about, you know, if if this happened, so if somebody comes back looking different.
SPEAKER_10And he's not the only one. So we'll talk about that. And we also have something about an exorcist that says that he encountered a man that had 27 demons at one time taken over. It's like, man, I can only imagine just having one.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. I mean, it's it's an interesting one too.
SPEAKER_10I was like, talk about being bad shit crazy.
SPEAKER_11Right. Well, you know, I was you know, you you see some people walking down the street and you wonder. Right. Yeah. And it could be rampant these days, you never know.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. And we also have a story about being spoon-fed radiation. This one's insane. Yeah. This is I'm just like, wow. Guess who is sponsoring this one? Mmm.
The Mojave Phone Booth Legend
SPEAKER_22Gather round. This happened. The Mojave Desert, California, 1997, 15 miles from the nearest paved road, down a rudded dirt track most vehicles couldn't handle, there stood a phone booth. A standard Pacific Bell booth. Glass walls, metal shelf, dangling phone book, working dial tone. It had been there for decades. No one remembers exactly why. The mine it served closed years ago. The workers were long gone. But Pacific Bell kept paying the electricity. The line stayed active. The booth just sat there in the emptiness, waiting. Then a man named Godfrey Doc Daniels found the number. He read about it in a punk scene. Some guy in Los Angeles had spotted a tiny telephone icon on the map and driven out to find it. Something about that stuck with Daniels. A phone booth in the middle of nowhere. A working number that no one ever called. He started calling every day. He taped each call, stated the date and time, let the phone ring, and hung up. He stuck a post-it note on his bathroom mirror. Did you remember to call the Mojave Desert today? He made every visitor to his house call the number two. Half an hour of tape. Nothing but ringing and the sound of his friends leaving messages for nobody. Then, less than a month in, June 20th, he got a busy signal. Someone was using the phone. He hit redial over and over until the line started ringing again. A woman answered. Her name was Lorene. She lived out near the old mine. She didn't have a phone of her own, so she walked to the booth. Daniels built a website about it. He posted the number, 760-7339969. And a simple challenge. Call it. See if I know what answers. The internet fell in love. People started calling from around the world. London, Tokyo, Sao Paulo. The phone rang constantly in the empty desert, day and night. Then people started making the trip. They wanted to be on the other end. They wanted to answer. And what they found out there changed them forever. People started calling the Mojave phone booth from around the world. The phone rang constantly in the empty desert day and night, and eventually people started making the trip to answer it. They drove for hours on paved highway, then turned onto 15 miles of unpaved dirt road that rattled their cars and covered everything in dirt. They arrived at a phone booth standing alone in a landscape so empty it could have been on another planet. The glass was shot out, the phone book was gone. Graffiti covered every surface. Names, dates, messages from people who'd made the journey. And they waited. When the phone rang, the sound hit hard. In the total silence of the desert, no traffic, no voices, no hum of any kind, a ringing phone was almost violent, and you couldn't ignore it.
SPEAKER_19That's weird. Mojave Desert. This is it. Fine, thanks.
SPEAKER_22People picked up and found themselves talking to strangers from halfway around the world.
SPEAKER_24So there's actually a modern push-button phone there. Yes, there is. And nobody's ripped it out or destroyed it? No, and it rings 24 hours a day, seven days a week, from around the world. I talked to Switzerland. I talked to Australia, Africa, of course, I talked to Kansas, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
SPEAKER_22The conversations were strange and personal. Something about the isolation made people open up. They told secrets. They confessed things they'd never said out loud. They talked to the booth like it was a priest, anonymous and free of judgment. The New York Times wrote about it in May 1998. That blew the doors off. Documentary crews showed up. Musicians wrote songs about it. The booth got its own fan sites, its own mythology. People camped next to it for days waiting for the next call, talking to whoever happened to dial the number. This was 1997, 1998, 1999. The early internet, when the web still felt like a place where weird things could happen, where a phone booth in the desert could become the most important place in the world just because enough people decided it
Eerie Calls And Feeling Watched
SPEAKER_22was. But there was something else about the phone calls. They weren't always friendly. Some calls were just static. A low electrical hum that sounded like the desert wind had gotten into the wires. Some were garbled voices, words that didn't quite form into anything you could understand. Sounds that might have been human or might not have been. One camper answered a call at three in the morning. The desert was pitch black. No moon, no artificial light for miles in any direction, just stars and silence. He picked up the receiver. A voice whispered, I see you. He looked around. Nothing. Darkness in every direction. No cars, no flashlights, no movement. He was alone. He hung up. The phone rang again. Same voice, same whisper. I see you. He didn't answer the third time. He got in his car and drove 15 miles of dirt road in the dark. The whole way out, he couldn't shake the feeling that something was watching him from the hills. Other visitors reported the same kind of thing. Calls that felt off, voices that didn't sound quite human, the feeling of being watched in a place where no one should have been watching. Some saw lights in the sky above the booth, not planes or satellites, something else. Others felt vibrations in the ground when the phone rang, like the booth was connected to something underneath the desert. The booth pulled in true believers who thought it was a portal, a beacon, an antenna drawing attention from things that weren't human. It pulled in skeptics who came to prove the stories wrong and left feeling uneasy. And it pulled in people who just wanted to answer a phone in the middle of nowhere to prove that connection was still possible, even in the most isolated place on Earth. And for three years, the Mojave phone booth rang.
The Booth Gets Destroyed
SPEAKER_22On May 17th, 2000, Pacific Bell sent a crew into the desert. They tore down the booth, ripped up the concrete pad, and disconnected the line. Per company policy, the phone number was retired. A Pac Bell spokesman later confirmed what fans had feared. They hadn't just removed the booth, they destroyed it. The official reason was environmental damage. Too many visitors driving off-road, tearing up the desert, leaving trash in what had become the Mojave National Preserve. But there was more to it. The preserve superintendent had confronted Pac Bell about long-forgotten easement fees for the land the booth sat on, fees that had gone unpaid for years, maybe decades. Pacific Bell didn't fight it, they just pulled the plug. The number 760-733-9969 went dead. Someone placed a headstone at the site, an actual grave marker, like a memorial for a dead friend. The National Park Service removed that too. But people still visit. They drive the 15 miles of dirt roads, park in the sand, and stand in the empty spot where the booth used to be. Nothing there now, just scrub brush and the faint outline where concrete once was, and the desert is already taking it back. Visitors hear a phantom ring, a faint electronic sound rising from the desert floor, coming from nowhere, drifting across the emptiness. The people who hear it swear it's real. It sounds like the booth is still there, buried under the sand, still connected to something, still waiting for someone to answer. In 2013, a phone freak named Lucky225 acquired the old number through a voiceover IP provider. He set it up so callers could reach a conference line, strangers talking to strangers again, just like the old days. The booth was gone, but the number lived. Doc Daniels spent 10 years writing a book about the whole thing. Adventures with the Mojave Phone Booth came out in 2018, funded by a Kickstarter campaign. And TheR's Snap Judgment did a segment on it. The podcast, 99% Invisible, devoted an episode to it. The novelist J.G. Ballard called the booth a kind of talismanic object, something that shouldn't have mattered, but did, for reasons nobody could fully explain. Thousands of people drove hours into the desert just to talk to strangers. They told secrets to a phone booth in the middle of nowhere because it felt safer than telling anyone they actually knew. The booth was a piece of forgotten equipment, a leftover from 1948 that nobody bothered to disconnect. A policy station for a dead mind. The desert is quiet now. The concrete is gone. The confessional is closed. But somewhere under the sand, something is still waiting for a signal.
Would You Answer That Phone
SPEAKER_11Dude, that's like, what the heck, man? I mean, like in the middle of the desert. I mean, who bro?
SPEAKER_10I mean, I that would freak me out just because if I was just out like four-wheeling or something, you know, and I was like, dude, is that a phone booth? Right. And it started ringing on top of that. Don't touch it. Don't touch it.
SPEAKER_11Get it right, get away, get away, let's go.
SPEAKER_10Don't tell anybody what you saw here.
SPEAKER_11Just so nuts. But yeah, I mean, and that's like, you know, I mean, I grew up in the desert, and I mean, obviously not that hard, but I mean it was all the time. You see ATVs and you know, doom buggies, and just but yeah, it and if you were to run that would totally freak me out. And then would you I I don't know. I might answer it because I'm just that type of person. You know, but yeah. I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_10Like honestly, that kind of that kind of freaked me out. You know what I mean? Like just the fact that there is actually a working phone booth in this day and age would freak me out a little bit. But then you know, maybe somebody's calling for help, or you never know.
SPEAKER_11I mean, it w you know, they you know, saying that you know, you're able to connect with people across the world and stuff like that. And you know, that was kind of a cool part, you know what I mean. But yeah, it was a good thing.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, but I mean like when they said that uh they felt like they were being watched. That's the part I'm talking about. It's like it's like a running car. And you can see the keys in it and the windows are down, and you're like this looks like a bait car. You know, like I'm not getting that phone booth. I'm sorry, just that's my own thing. I just I'm I wouldn't do it. I'm adventurous, but not that adventurous. Well then, you know, who knows what that voice was that was saying, I see you. And you know, anybody could be doing that.
SPEAKER_11Right, just to mess with people and stuff like that, yeah. But I mean it's still you're in the middle of the desert, and it's the dark in the desert. I mean, that's yeah, literally, like you know, that uh that's all you see is that.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, like the only light there is is from the stars.
SPEAKER_11And you can see all of them. It's badass, but yeah, that'd be scary, man. That's that's that's that kind of creepy. That's that kind of creepy.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, that is crazy. Well, hold tight. We're gonna see what these guys have to say about Jim Carrey. Right on.
Jim Carrey Double Rumors
SPEAKER_08Oh yeah. Cue the fake Jim Carrey. Alrighty then.
SPEAKER_07My favorite funny face is the one I'm wearing right now.
SPEAKER_08I don't know what to tell you. It's working on me. What the f happened with Jim Carrey? I can tell you this. Some wild speculation is happening after the actor appeared at a film thing in Paris and he he didn't look or act like himself. Many are saying he's a fake Jim Carrey. And they're asking what happened to the real one. Look at these photos taking just four months apart. Something about Jim Chang. But is it something more than Jim seeing an intoxicated plastic surgeon? Well, to dispel the rumors that we saw a fake Jim Carrey, a makeup artist named Alexis Stone has come out, probably gay by the way, saying he was playing the fake Jim Carrey all along. And as Dusty Slate points out, people said this was a fake Jim Carrey, and it's been debunked by saying it was a fake Jim Carrey. People are stupid. This Justin! That debunking has now been debunked too. Because the Caesar Awards show and Francis come out and said, no, that was the real Jim Carrey we had at our event. So that brings us to the unanswered question. What the f happened to Jim Carrey? Some say he was eliminated and replaced because he said too much. Too much about what? Take a look.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what happened in 1990. There was no plague that was killing children, that we had to triple the amount of vaccines.
SPEAKER_07What happened after 1989? Why did they get born to 26 more vaccines? Say more, Jim.
SPEAKER_06We in America are misinformed. Reality shows have warped our idea of what a hero is. Or what the truth is.
SPEAKER_08And here's uh Jim directly shining the light on the underbelly of the elite son, Jimmy Kimmel.
SPEAKER_07What is it? Come on, Jimmy. Seriously. The secret symbol of the Luminati.
SPEAKER_08Probably had nothing to do with anything, but anyway, not long after that, his girlfriend mysteriously committed uh suicide. Which happens to be a very common condition that affects people and their families that say too much. It's just in! According to this article, the real Jim Carrie is conveniently dead and was cloned on Epstein Island. So that's who you saw. Yeah. I'm actually on board with that. This explanation makes the most sense out of anything I've heard. Crazy times we're living in. That's it for today's news. If you'll excuse me, I've gotta go fight off my clone. Oh yeah, and you might want to keep your hat on the swivel. Boston shooter over the weekend may have had some terroristic motivations as he had on a property of Allah shirt and a Koran was found in his car. You ask how would thousands of Iranian terrorists get into our country? Remember the open borders we had during the Biden years? That causes a big problem now. Good night. Is my clone done eating breakfast? Yeah, you tell my clone if he doesn't behave, I'm making him into beef jerky.
SPEAKER_04People are stupid.
SPEAKER_10Dude,
Hollywood Replacements And Eye Tests
SPEAKER_10you know, I can I mean I could tell right off the bat that that wasn't him. But most people could, obviously. The eyes don't match. Nothing matches.
SPEAKER_11It's it's it well, I mean, just the cheekbones alone, and that's you know, I mean, unless he had plastic surgery and really like real real quick, because that that takes a long time to to to heal from. And I mean that's like I was saying with with his uh his you know, his smiley frown, you know, his smiley lines. So they're not the same. Right, right, right.
SPEAKER_10And that's why I'm like, growing that fast.
SPEAKER_11It's no way. It was creepy. I mean, it just looking at it was just like that, it's creepy. And then you know, he always said, I'm out of this business. If you see me doing something for this business, it's not me. And I I Jim Carrey is kind of one of those things that you like he he's been out for a long, long time.
SPEAKER_10He's been against the movie industry and and all that stuff for a long time. Yeah, that's why you don't see him in many movies at all. Yeah, you know.
SPEAKER_11I mean, I can't even remember the last one that he's been in. Like any voiceovers. Uh what I don't know, did he ever do any voiceovers? I I don't know if you did, but uh his.
SPEAKER_10I can't even remember the last movie I saw that it was like a new movie.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I mean the last one I kind of remember it was Jake and uh uh Dick and Jane. Oh yeah, that's probably that's probably maybe it's been a long time.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, so well, you know, like uh Jim Brewers actually talked about Dave Chappelle, you know, when he had a mental breakdown and turned down fifty million dollars, and he's like, that's what they tell you, man. They they do this with everybody. They tell you that you went crazy or something like that because you went against what they wanted you to do. Right. And then so when he came back, he was like a completely different guy. You know, he was this little like thin wiry person and then he comes back and he's like Debo. He's like, let me tell you all some jokes or a little toothpick that's like what happened, man? Royds or replacement?
SPEAKER_11Especially because, you know, supposedly he went to Africa and and you know, I mean there's not a I I just don't see him laying around in Africa getting fat.
SPEAKER_10He went out there and ran from lions and Al fought alligators to get buff.
SPEAKER_11Not a lot of people in Africa are fat, you know.
SPEAKER_10I mean, but seriously, they're not buff like that either, right?
SPEAKER_11I mean it's nuts.
SPEAKER_10So I don't know, man. It's just the way Hollywood works, it's always been like a mind game, you know.
SPEAKER_11And you see a lot of these actors and actresses starting to get, you know, faceless and stuff, then you're just like, why?
SPEAKER_10Well, I mean we got sex changes. You know nothing's off the table anymore. You know? That's what I was thinking too. He looks kind of like a Caitlyn Jenner or something.
SPEAKER_11It was yeah.
SPEAKER_10Like he's on his way there.
SPEAKER_11In a in a weird way.
SPEAKER_10I thought and you know, they were trying to debunk it, saying that that uh makeup artist from Hollywood that does a bunch of different disguises and tries to act like all these other stars or whatever was the one that did it. And then they debunked that. And then now it's it's back. Now that is the reason. Either either way, it doesn't matter to me. What is the point? Like, don't give somebody that wants nothing to do with you an award. You know, obviously your little experiment failed. Because everybody was like instantly honored. Yeah.
SPEAKER_11I mean, even if even if Jim Carrey, you know, he was like, I don't care what you do, you know, do whatever you want. Uh just leave me that, you know. Just so freaking weird. I mean, just look like a freaking zombie person almost. I mean, to try to pass out.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, and it just be like me coming in here going, Oh, hi, everybody.
SPEAKER_09How's it going? I'm just so happy to be here today. Thank you for letting me be here. I'm so happy. This was just such an amazing day. This is such an amazing place. I'm so happy.
SPEAKER_10Like, if I come in here talking like that, shoot that guy. Cause that is not me. You know, anybody hears me talking like that, they're like this guy, right? I mean, yeah, it's just not our role. Right. Like, I might be hard to hear sometimes, but it's not because I'm talking like that. You know? Holy crap, dude. I mean, that was creepy. Just talking like that was creepy. The whole thing, the whole thing was creepy. I'm I'm actually sorry for making you guys watch that because that was creepy stuff.
SPEAKER_11I still don't understand the whole reasoning why, though. That's what that's what baffles me. Is there uh are we gonna find out like in a couple weeks the of some you know just alternative ha ha ha ha motive or I it just oh yeah, it was some some social experiment. Some social experiment, you know, Jim Carrey was there all with it, but I just we just wanted to see if that you know just kidding. You know, it's just a joke. We we want to see how how how how uh um blind you guys really are with the you know diversions and all that good stuff to it to Jafal.
SPEAKER_10Right. I've already pulled enough tricks on you already. We were just gonna see what else we can do.
SPEAKER_11It's getting thick. It's getting thick. Time to get our shovel.
SPEAKER_10That was that was over the top. Yeah, man. That was scary looking for real. They can never get the eyes right. People that know what I'm talking about know what I'm talking about. A person's eyes never like never get the eyes right.
An Exorcist Describes 27 Demons
SPEAKER_04Twenty-seven demons in one person?
SPEAKER_05Yeah. What was the one in modern history? The Mormons. It's a modified form of Freemasonry, anyway. How many demons are there? Billions, literally. Can a demon possess multiple people at one time?
SPEAKER_23Yeah, so all the gods of the Gentiles are demons. What's the most you've seen? Uh well, I said this one had Legion. And I I I believe it was Legion. But outside that context, the one that I've seen the most is 27.
SPEAKER_0527 demons in one person?
SPEAKER_23Yeah. And uh it was uh pretty sad case. This guy was a hurting hurting unit, man, from all that. So most of them, though, uh most of them are it's somewhere between one to eight, maybe, are the most, is it you tend to see as a general rule. Um, I actually did see a case where I had one case where I got rid of one demon of fear. The woman went out and did something really stupid, and then when she came back, it was literally like scripture one leaves and seven return, seven come back. And that was literally she had seven. So um, but so the number of possessors, the names, because once you know the name, there's two aspects to the name. One, it gives you an identity. So, for example, when I had Loki in a case, um, once the demon revealed what his name was, then I was able to actually go and research historically Loki as a Norse god. Because the D says right in scripture, all the gods are Gentiles or demons. And so you can actually just go and look at the um the worship that they used to give to Loki in the past uh and to the Norse god of Loki, and uh what you'll find out in there is almost it was almost a complete description of his personality. Like, you know, he's a he's a god of mischief. And so he was just, he was just such a handle to get a hold of. But once you know the the name, then you can do some research or you can ask other exorcists if you've seen this guy, um, etc. The second thing is the name gives you a power over them. Now, demons will either reveal their name right off the bat if it's not going to help, if if it's not gonna be mean that much, um, or they'll hold out and hold out and hold out as long as they possibly can, because once you know their name, then it gives you a certain power over them. We actually experience this as human beings. So if I call your name, hey, Sean, if you're standing over there and I say, hey, Sean, right? It when it comes into your faculties and you hear it, it draws your attention. Well, it's the same thing with them. When you're using their name, it draws their attention and they can't get their mind off of the thing that you're telling them to do. And so it gives you a power actually over them. So the names, uh, how they got in, because a lot of times how they got in is how they're gonna get out. Plus, times how they got in is very often, like if it's because they were wounded very badly, like a woman was raped or something of that sort, then you have maybe some psychological issues that have to be addressed first before she's gonna get liberated. Um and then uh the time and date of departure when you're leaving. I don't ask that too often because they usually lie. Now, some what about only about 10% of the time do they actually tell the truth, but they usually lie. They'll say, Oh, I'm leaving tomorrow, and then tomorrow comes and goes, and they don't leave. And the reason they're doing that is they're trying to discourage the person who's possessed. Uh and then the final last piece of information is what is it going to take to get you out? And usually it's something very simple. So in the last case that uh the woman was liberated that I was working with, um that we it took us a long time to get out this piece of information. She had to go to she had to go to a specific altar uh in a particular church, and I had to say a specific prayer over her, and she would leave, and he would leave. We did it, boom, he was out. But it took us a long time to get him to that point. That that piece of information is what they're gonna hold out. And there's six stages of liberation. Stage six is liberation, stage five, that last piece of information is gonna come out in stage five. Wow.
SPEAKER_05When you're talking about curses, does this play into this as well? Curses? Can you ask who the curse came from? Yes. Well, they'll often reveal it.
SPEAKER_23So if the if the person's possessed, so if the person's possessed, you'll actually, if they're not possessed, the demons can't talk necessarily. They just whereas if the person's possessed, you can beat him to the surface and force him to talk, and he'll talk. Um and then at that point, they'll um, in order for the if the person was cursed, you have to break the curse, and that's gonna be how you're gonna liberate them. And so as a result, the demon's gonna have to tell you at some point who cursed them and how it was done. And then there's usually specific things that you can do to invert those or break the curses. How many demons are there? Billions, literally. So uh when God created all the angels, he created the entire hierarchy of angels instantaneously all at once. Um, and so uh starting from the uh seraphim, which is at the top, all the way down to just angels at the bottom. Of the class of the angels alone, there's one subset, which is the guardian angels. And every human being that has reached, uh that has basically been born or uh basically been conceived, has had a guardian angel created specifically for that particular individual. So you're talking billions just in that one subclass. The number of angels that fell is from the book of Revelation, where Satan took a third of the stars and with his uh tail and swept them down. So that's the fathers say that that means that a third of the angels actually fell. Now, not a third get to possess or have much to do with us in this life. Most of the possessions that we see are from the top rank, which is the top three choirs, uh, the thrones, the cherubim, and the seraphim. So that you know, it'd be Satan loose from Biels, but there would also be uh Bal, Asmodeus, Leviathan, Lilith, uh Asmode, uh Balfamet, and then also um uh uh Moloch, those those are the ones in the middle. Um there's also other ones like Abaddon, who they're kind of in the middle. They're after they're right in the state. You don't see too many in the middle tier very often. And then you'll see a lot of the lower grunt guys at the bottom whose job it is to just kind of do the bidding of the guys at the top. And so that those where you see most of the possessed and uh demons coming from.
SPEAKER_05And so when they name themselves, did the Is this all recorded? When you're talking about billions of demons and you in in in and you get one to name itself during an exorcism, you go do some research. I mean, how many times have it been where it wasn't recorded?
SPEAKER_23Uh most of it. Most of it. Yeah. Because historically, to be an exorcist was done by mentorship. So what would happen is if you were chosen to be an exorcist, you would go and study under some guy for like a year to two years. And then he would teach you all these things, you know, that we're talking about. And so you would learn those things, and you'd learn the names of demons, and you'd see them in session and get a sense for them before you started out on your own. But because of the number of exorcists collapsed in the church, and then they now they're just trying to get it back up off the ground. They're doing there, we we teach classes actually. My community and I, we'd actually teach classes, and then there's also a place in Mundaline that teaches courses for uh on this particular topic. And so, um, but then we encourage people to come and sit in on session because it's one thing for me to tell you that, oh yeah, people change shape during session, you know, during and it's another thing to actually see it and see what you're actually looking at. So, because anytime demons predator naturally manifest, there's a real revelation, something about the demon. It's called the cause is always some way in the effect. It's a philosophical principle. The cause is always some way in the effect. And so they're revealing it. So when they do those types of things, um, I'm my I'm those things don't I'm I'm not I'm not the only thing I'm really interested in is what am I seeing? What can I learn from what is going on with this guy? Because I gotta do that information is gonna tell me something about him, and it's gonna be helpful for me to get him out.
SPEAKER_05Aaron Powell But before we move into shape shifting and that kind of stuff, I'd just curious, so is it would that be would that be your responsibility to record a new name with a new personality?
SPEAKER_23Aaron Powell Uh So we don't we don't uh necessarily record it, but we are actually in the process of building a database so that exorcists would have access to the database because uh some of the common ones like Satan was for those things, or even some of the more common ones like Abaddon is the demon of destruction. You'll get uh, you know, you can find out a fair amount of information about these guys. We'll put those in the database, but there's a lot of ones that are less known. Um, and so exorcists come across them. You know, I've come across uh demons that other exorcists haven't, and they've come across demons that I've never even heard of or nobody's ever even heard of. Um, and it seems authentic, et cetera. So we want to get a database so that going forward, exorcists, if they come across somebody, they don't have to spend all the time doing the research. They can just quickly go take a look at the database and get a sense of this is what the guy's weaknesses are, this is what he got out in these particular kinds, these sessions, in these cases, this is what got him out, this is his his his history, because like if he the god of ISIS or Osiris, those are Egyptian gods, but those are also demons, so if you know what those are, then you can actually um you know, we can don't have to go and read a bunch of Egyptian in order to know what these guys are.
Names Curses And Multiple Possession
SPEAKER_05Can a demon possess multiple people at one time? Yeah, you can.
SPEAKER_23I actually had a case of that, well, two cases, um where uh the same possessor was possessing two sisters who were blood related. And so when we would do sessions with one, the other one would manifest from time to time outside of the session. Holy shit. So we we had uh we had to do a lot of stuff to keep them um, you know, from what we call cross-animation, which is where, you know, when they're around each other, the demons are gonna manifest. So you see that from time to time where someone who's possessed, they'll get around someone else who's possessed, and whoever has the lower demons in them will be the one where the lowest demon will manifest in the presence of the bigger demon. But they do can they can possess more than once, more than one. They generally can only act on one thing at a time. Okay. But Thomas Aquinas says that they can act on a number of different things at the same time if it all falls under the same conceptual idea. So, for example, someone can juggle where they're keeping several things in the air at once. Demons can act on, like, I'm gonna act on these three people that I'm possessing because I'm uh, you know, my access to them is the same, and so they can poss act on three people at the same time. Um but normally they don't do that.
SPEAKER_05And it sounds like all of these demons were false gods at some point. You said god of the Norse god, Egyptian gods, Baal, Moloch. Yeah. Uh not Aphomed.
SPEAKER_23Yeah, so all the gods of the Gentiles are demons, which is true. I mean, the only ones I haven't come across are ones like for the mu the Romans. Like I haven't come across Mars or Jupiter or something like that. But uh the Egyptian gods come across, you know, several of those. The Norse ones, the Norse ones are taking them, they're they're rising up because of the um, they're being uh introduced or being used in video games and things of that sort that the young men are doing. So they're you're starting to see more of those. Um, but not all the the but not all the uh the demons made themselves out to be a god to someone else. So Satan never really did, even though he wants peace people to worship him. He doesn't have a specific religion, he wants his own. And they all fall under him. They do, yeah.
SPEAKER_05What about Greek gods?
SPEAKER_23Uh yeah, it's the same. Uh some I've we've I've seen exorcists scenes, some we haven't. So um I suspect at some point some exorcist has come across, you know, Venus or whatever, but um we just we just we just don't hear about it too often.
SPEAKER_05And so would we when we get into or I mean looking back through time when we're talking about Norse gods, Bal Moloch, Greek god, any gods that, you know, throughout history, does that mean that those gods were introduced by a demon? Uh very often.
SPEAKER_23So what will happen is uh historically, either the demon will um possess somebody in a particular culture, and then from there the person kind of becomes like this oracle from which the rituals and the worship is um designed and the people are swayed into doing it. Um it's you're not gonna have a case where they're actually going to appear as a general rule, although that has happened historically, where demons will appear as angels of light um and claim to be, you know, from God and then say this is what you're supposed to do at the end, getting the person to start their own religion. Um we've seen that happen a couple of times, actually. Um, one in more modern history and one six, you know, year six hundred. So we've seen those particular things happen. Um What was the one in modern history? Uh the Mormons. So, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of the Mormons out there are not going to be happy that I said that, but um the uh, you know, the angel that appeared to him, you know, there's a it actually gets to the uh right the line from St. Paul, which is actually on the outside of the cathedral in um in uh Salt Lake, if I'm not mistaken, but out on the out outside of the, it's, you know, even if even if an angel were to preach to you another gospel. So you have those um those particular things that are actually uh they're actually and the other thing is too is that at least in the relationship with the Mormons, I don't want to get too deep into it, but the um that it's actually um it's a modified form of Freemasonry anyway.
SPEAKER_05I mean that sounds like the ultimate deception if they come to you in a light, you know, to appear to be angelic. I mean, how does that look in God's eyes? Uh fall into that deception.
SPEAKER_23Well, God's allowing it, obviously, because they they literally, like I said, the battlefield is completely determined by Christ. So Christ is allowing it. And um, I once asked this one uh colleague of mine, I said, Well, what do you think is the reason for the Moslems? And he said, to afflict the West. Right? So God will allow these particular things to afflict us in order for us to get our act together, but also to reveal to us that, look, if you start your own religion, it's just gonna go bad and it's just not gonna be true. So um I think in in God's eyes, I think that's part of it. But I think on the side of the human beings, we're just easily deceived. Because demons do, they can present themselves in a very positive light. Um, everywhere from anything from actually appearing as an angel of light. You know, when people actually see this bright figure appear in front of them all the way down to giving people amorus feelings to where they so the person's oh, it must be from God because uh, you know, it's helping me to love people more. No, that's not necessarily the case.
SPEAKER_05Will we be judged for that? I mean, that that's that's that it just sounds like the ultimate deception, almost, and he allowed it. Yeah. So how can I mean can we be blamed? If we're that I mean, earlier you had mentioned, you know, hum we're stupid. We are stupid. We are stupid.
SPEAKER_23On the other hand, uh, we're not that stupid. So, um, you know, how much what degree of deception? I mean, ultimately God would be able to judge the particular individual soul. So it might be possible that someone started their own religion not knowing that they were completely deceived. But I I my experience in reading about these people's history is there's often points that after they've had these experiences, that it becomes clear to them or they start having the thoughts, you know, maybe I'm possessed, or maybe this isn't
Hosts React And Connect Dots
SPEAKER_23from God. And so they don't take they don't take the necessary steps to properly discern it.
SPEAKER_10Dude, dude, that's 27.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, that's that's frickin' a lot.
SPEAKER_10Billions of demons roaming the earth, man.
SPEAKER_11I mean, you know, and that's the thing, is like, you know, there's a lot of evil people on this for real.
SPEAKER_10And uh I mean You know when he said Harry asked, can can they uh possess multiple people at one time? I was like the first thing I thought about was the government. Right. You know, I don't know. I'm gonna catch a lot of flack for this. I'll probably get a shadow ban or whatever, but what okay. You know, it's the somebody's gotta speak the truth one day or someday, you know. Just like that's what it seems like. Seems like they're always well, right. I mean it there's killing people is no big deal. Right. And it doesn't matter what side you're on with Iran war, any war. You know what I mean? Ever since I was a little kid, I was always just like, well, how come we can't just like arm wrestle or something? Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_11There's got to be a better way than just sacrifice our guys fight your guys. People that don't even care about your political.
SPEAKER_10We have to kill. You know what I mean? And that's that's demonic in itself, right? You know, and that's sacrificing humans. That's why he was talking about Moloch, you know what I mean? And we've talked about Bohemian Grove on one of our episodes before, and that's exactly what that was all about sacrificing our babies or humans to the god of sacrifice, Moloch. And it's like it's everywhere, so it doesn't surprise me that a demon can possess multiple people. And yeah, they said there's billions, and that's why I believe like the whole um pronouns thing where they're trying to get people to start calling themselves uh they or them. That's a demonic thing to me because you're trying to act like you're a part of a legion. Like I'm supposed to think that you're a multiple of a multitude of people, not just one person by saying that. It's like first off, or that doesn't work in the English language. And second off, I'm not gonna glorify a demon period or mark up somebody else's tree. That's just crazy, man. It's like they're everywhere.
SPEAKER_11Apparently, I mean, geez, I mean that there's millions of them. Uh it's it's uh uh Moloch's the is that the bull one? The one that has the horns. So I was just thinking.
SPEAKER_10They were burning it.
SPEAKER_11Or no, that's Val. I'm sorry. Is that Val, the one that they they said that that's what started the uh Moloch is the the owl. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Okay, all right.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, uh the effigy of the owl is supposed to be Moloch.
SPEAKER_11Okay. That's the one they were burning babies and children in, and they're like, well, I don't know. That's okay in the Bohomian group. Yeah. And then the the bull on the one that they said that started this Iranian war.
SPEAKER_10They burned that effigy of Baal in Iran because they say that we uh worship that god. Right. I mean, they're wrong about me. I don't know about the government or whatever they're doing, but for me they're they're absolutely wrong. Right.
SPEAKER_11Well, and there's a lot of people here that you know most people don't even know what Baal is.
SPEAKER_10Most people don't even know what these demonic gods are. You know?
SPEAKER_11Right. Well, no, it w well when they were burned. Well, no, and that's why I had to ask uh uh you and uh uh uh the guy at my work too, and I was like and he's to you was telling me about you was giving me kinda uh uh back you know backstory on it. And I was because I I was lost. I mean I it looked familiar and I was like I I know that I should know who that is, but I I just well and the Abaddon the got the demon of destruction.
SPEAKER_10That's like exactly what our government or all governments that's what humans do a lot. We destroy things that somebody else put together. You know what I mean? That's insane, but it is everywhere. And I guess the main reason I wanted to bring this up is just so everybody's aware, you know, like you gotta really watch what you're doing. That whole um getting consent by not saying no. You know what I mean? Like if you don't say anything, then they just figure that's your consent. Which is crazy, but it is. I can tell you what it is, and then if you don't say no, then they're in. You know, and it it there's all kinds of things that we could be affected by, but it's just crazy, man. It's like it instantly started making me think about the authority figures in our government possession. Yeah, some crazy stuff.
SPEAKER_11Everything runs deep.
SPEAKER_10Which is cool. It seems like everything we've talked about on this podcast has had like way deeper stuff in it than we've even brought to the surface, you know.
SPEAKER_11Right. Well, even that phone booth thing, right? You know, yeah. I mean, hey, it's it's funky.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, it's probably like some what you call that for like a four-digit code or something. And then remember uh was it spies like us? Remember when they went to that movie theater in the middle of the desert? Oh, yeah, yeah. It was the drive the drive-in. Yeah, he goes, why don't you give guys the coke? You know, maybe it was one of those things. Maybe it was Bill and Ted's phone booth for that's what you know. Yeah, who knows?
SPEAKER_11I mean, it's uh it's interesting stuff.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. World of a funky place. Who knows? There's all kinds of possibilities about all kinds of things. But this next part we're gonna talk about is uh being spoon-fed radiation when you're an unknowing child and you have no right to say no.
SPEAKER_11Once again, silence is golden and just yes.
SPEAKER_10Who's behind it?
Kids Fed Radioactive Cereal
SPEAKER_18A news report came on his car radio. A government committee had just revealed something horrifying. Children at a state institution had been fed radioactive cereal. The institution was the Fernal State School in Waltham. Boyce had lived there as a child and eaten that cereal. He had been a member of that club they described. For 45 years he believed joining the science club meant someone cared about him. That morning, sitting in his car on the side of the road, he learned what it actually meant. He was a test subject, and he had always been one. And the people who fed him that breakfast had known exactly what they were doing. The Fernald State School was founded in 1848 as the Massachusetts School for the Feeble-minded. It was the first publicly funded institution for developmentally disabled people in the Western Hemisphere. By the early 1900s, its superintendent, Walter E. Fernald, had turned it into something else entirely. Fernald sat on the board of the Eugenic Society. He believed certain people were genetically inferior and should be separated from the rest of society permanently. Under his leadership, the school stopped being a school, it became a warehouse. Children were committed there not because they were disabled, but because they were inconvenient. Orphans, foster kids who had run out of foster homes, poor children from broken families, kids who misbehaved or tested below average on IQ exams that have since been thoroughly discredited. At its peak, the institution held roughly 2,500 people across 72 buildings on nearly 200 acres. Historian Michael D'Antonio estimated that at least half the residents would function normally in today's world. Across the country, during the worst decades of the eugenics movement, approximately 200,000 relatively normal children were locked away in more than 100 similar institutions. They were labelled with clinical terms idiot, imbecile, moron. These were official medical classifications stamped on their permanent records. Fred Boyce was seven years old when the state of Massachusetts committed him to Fernald. His mother had abandoned him. He had been a ward of the state since he was eight months old. He had already lived in seven foster homes. When his last foster mother died, the state needed somewhere to put him. Fernald was easier than finding another family. So they sent him through the iron gates and stamped his file with a single word. Moron. His intelligence tested within the normal range. He simply had never been educated. The conditions inside Fernald were exactly what you would expect from a place designed to make children disappear. Staff forced boys to sit on wooden benches for hours with their arms folded. If you unfolded your arms, you were hit. Children performed unpaid manual labour, making brooms, brushes, and furniture, doing maintenance, preparing food. They received almost no education. The most capable residents kept the institution running, while the institution kept them invisible. One building was later described as a place where human waste covered the floors and drugged residents sat half dressed in rows moaning. Visitors who came decades later confirmed those descriptions were accurate. This was the daily reality for thousands of American children whose only crime was being born into circumstances no one wanted to deal with. And it was into this environment, in the fall of 1949, that researchers from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology arrived with an idea. MIT created something called the Science Club. The pitch was simple. Join the club and you would get things no child at Fernald ever received. Extra food, trips outside the institution, tickets to Boston Red Sox games, Mickey Mouse watches, attention from adults who seemed to care. About 90 boys signed up. Fred Boyce was one of them. He later said that life at Fernald was so brutal he would have volunteered for anything. If the scientist had offered an outing in exchange for eating arsenic, his hand would have gone up. The boys did not know what they were joining. Their parents, for those who had parents, received a letter from the superintendent describing special breakfast meals that would help improve the children's nutrition. The letter never mentioned radiation, it never mentioned radioactive isotopes, it used opt-out consent, meaning silence was treated as agreement. And for the children who were wards of the state, the superintendent himself signed the consent forms. The same man who ran the institution approved the experiments on the children in his care. There was no independent oversight. There was no one whose job it was to ask whether this was acceptable. Between 1946 and 1953, MIT Professor of Nutrition Robert S. Harris and his team conducted three separate experiments on Fernald residents. In the first, boys ate oatmeal coated with radioactive iron tracers across seven meals. Their spleens absorbed between 544 and 1,024 millims of radiation. In the second, 36 boys drank milk containing radioactive calcium tracers. In the third, nine boys were injected directly with radioactive calcium through a syringe. The subjects were between 10 and 17 years old. The total number of children involved was at least 74. Here is the part that should make you set down whatever you were eating. The entire reason these experiments existed was a serial marketing war. In the late 1940s, Quaker oats and cream of wheat were competing for dominance in the American breakfast market. Recent studies had suggested that a chemical called phytate, found naturally in oats, interfered with iron absorption. This gave cream of wheat a potential nutritional advantage. Quaker oats needed data to fight back, so Quaker supplied the cereal. MIT received funding through a named Quaker Oats Fellowship. The United States Atomic Energy Commission supplied the radioactive isotopes, and the Fernald State School supplied the children. Seventy-four boys fed radioactive breakfast so a cereal company could win a marketing argument. The results were exactly what Quaker wanted. Oatmeal was no worse than cream of wheat at promoting iron absorption. That finding went straight into advertising. The calcium injection study produced something else. Researchers discovered that calcium deposits directly into bones after entering the bloodstream. That became foundational research for osteoporosis science. Every time you hear that milk build strong bones, there is a line that connects back to Fernald. Nine boys were injected with radioactive material without their knowledge or consent. That nutritional fact was purchased with something that was not for sale. Now, the strongest counterargument. Multiple task forces concluded that the radiation doses were small. A 1994 Massachusetts state panel found no measurable health effects. The exposure was roughly equivalent to receiving 30 consecutive chest x-rays, which sounds alarming but falls within ranges that do not typically cause detectable harm. I sat with that fact for a long time. It almost closed the door for me. If no one was physically injured, what exactly is the crime? Then I read the full testimony. A researcher named Bertrand Brill from MIT was asked about the choice of test subjects. Under pressure, he admitted the truth plainly. They should not have used a group that had no way to say no. That sentence reframes everything. The damage was not the radiation. The damage was a system that manufactured consent from people who had no ability to refuse, children without parents. Children whose legal guardian was the same person approving the experiments. Children who had been classified as subhuman by the state that was supposed to protect them. The radiation was the method. The real violation was the architecture that made these children available. They had been erased from society before the first spoonful of oatmeal ever reached their mouths, and Fernald was not an isolated case. When the story broke in December 1993, it triggered something much larger.
The Bigger History Of Radiation Tests
SPEAKER_18Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary launched a federal investigation into government-sponsored radiation experiments. President Clinton established the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments in January 1994. Over 18 months, the committee reviewed millions of declassified pages from six cabinet offices. What they found was staggering. Between 1944 and 1974, the United States government had sponsored several thousand human radiation experiments on an estimated 20,000 or more unwitting American citizens. At Vanderbilt University in the 1940s, 800 pregnant women were given radioactive iron in drinks described as vitamins. At the University of Iowa in 1953, newborn babies were fed radioactive iodine. In Cincinnati between 1960 and 1971, 200 cancer patients, mostly poor, mostly black, were irradiated without informed consent while being told they were receiving treatment. Prisoners in Washington and Oregon state prisons were used for radiation tests. More than 200,000 military personnel were exposed during atomic weapons tests. 18 people were injected with plutonium at hospitals across the country. Most of them were poor. Most of them were sick. None of them were told what was being put into their veins. In Hanford, Washington, in 1949, the Atomic Energy Commission deliberately released iodine-131 into the atmosphere, contaminating 500,000 acres, including three small towns. And here is the detail that should keep you awake. A 1947 internal AEC memorandum recommended that these experiments not be made public. The reason, stated in a direct quote from a government document, was that it might have an adverse effect on public opinion or result in legal suits. They knew. They knew it was wrong, they said so in writing, and they did it anyway because the people they were doing it to did not have the power to stop them. The test subjects were always drawn from the same pool. The institutionalized, the imprisoned, the terminally ill, the poor, the abandoned. The people society had already decided did not count. The advisory committee's final report was released on October 3, 1995, at a White House ceremony. President Clinton called the experiments morally troubling and issued a formal apology. Fred Boyce was there. He watched the President speak. And later he said it was not enough to compensate these guys who had their lives ruined because people were trying to do good. But here is something almost no one mentions about that date. October 3rd, 1995, the single most significant revelation about government experimentation on American citizens was released to the public on the exact same day the entire country was watching the O.J. Simpson verdict. The biggest news cycle in a generation swallowed the story whole. Whether that timing was terrible luck or something more deliberate, I cannot say for certain. But the result was the same. The country barely noticed. I need to be honest about something. There is a version of this story that is easier to tell. The version where you focus on the radiation, call it monstrous, and move on. The clean outrage version. But that version lets the system off the hook. Because the radiation experiments lasted seven years. Fred Boyce's institutionalization lasted eleven. The label on his file lasted his entire life. He left Fernald at 19 with almost no ability to read. He cleaned up after Red Sox games at Fenway Park. He washed dishes. He eventually bought a portable carnival game booth and travelled the circuit because his lack of education closed every other door. He taught himself to read as an adult. He married. He raised a family. He built a life from materials most people would consider nothing. And he spent decades fighting for one thing that had nothing to do with radioactive cereal. He wanted the state of Massachusetts to remove the word moron from his records. He wanted an apology, not for the experiments, for being told he was not part of the species. For being locked behind Iron Gates at age seven because the state found it easier than finding him a home. He never received that apology. When Fred Boyce died on May 6, 2006, at the age of 65, the word moron was still on his file. The class action lawsuit against MIT and Quaker Oates settled in January 1998 for $1.85 million. Split among claimants, each person received roughly $20,000 to $30,000. MIT's vice president compared the total settlement to the tuition of 20 students. Quaker Oates denied playing a significant role, claiming they only donated some cereal and provided a small research grant. No individual researcher was ever criminally charged. Konstantin Meletzkos, the MIT researcher who studied how the boys metabolize radioactive calcium, was interviewed decades later. His response has stayed with me since I first read it. He said he felt just as good about the experiments as the day he conducted them. Just as good. About feeding radioactive material to children who could not refuse. That sentence is its own verdict. The Fernald campus closed its doors for the last time on November 13, 2014, when the final resident was discharged. The buildings still stand, but not for long. They're being demolished. In January 2024, a journalist named Oliver Egger, who is Walter Fernald's own great-great-grandson, discovered that thousands of confidential patient records had been left on the abandoned campus. Medical files. Personal histories. The documentation of lives spent inside those walls. Just sitting there for anyone to find. A violation of federal privacy law confirmed by the state. And in April 2025, a four-alarm fire swept through the site. The physical evidence of what happened at Fernald is disappearing. The buildings are coming down, the records were left to rot, and then to burn. The campus is on fire, and nobody seems troubled by what the flames are consuming. You probably had cereal this morning. Or yesterday. Or you will tomorrow. Somewhere in the long chain of nutritional science that shapes your breakfast, there are seventy-four boys who were never asked. Boys who thought joining a club meant someone finally saw them as human. Boys who discovered 45 years later that they were data points in a marketing study funded by a company that sold oatmeal. I think about what Fred Boyce said when he learned the truth. He did not describe rage, he did not describe shock. He called it a disappointing type of feeling. That is the word a man uses when betrayal is so familiar it no longer surprises him. When being used is just another version of being forgotten. When the people who were supposed to protect you turn out to be the ones who handed you over. Every morning, millions of people pour cereal into a bowl without knowing the smallest part of where the science came from, without knowing who was fed what, without knowing their names. The fernal campus is burning and nobody is asking what is being lost in the fire. The records were left behind. The buildings are coming down. The word moron is still on Fred Boyce's file. And the cereal is still on the shelf.
Betrayal Power And Profit
SPEAKER_11What the heck, dude?
SPEAKER_10Like I said, human sacrifice, man. Right? It's like somebody's up there going, Ah, kill them all.
SPEAKER_11They're not humans. They don't really matter. They're just dude. I mean, seriously, it's it's over and over and over and over again. And it it's always something, man.
SPEAKER_10Like it reminds me of that orphan train thing.
SPEAKER_11Right. You know?
SPEAKER_10And and two hundred thousand kids went through that place right there.
SPEAKER_11And they yeah, there's a lot of kids that disappeared that they don't even you know, and obviously something probably got not good at it.
SPEAKER_10Oh, I mean they probably buried them or burned 'em. Yeah. Remade 'em, whatever they needed. Yeah, something. I mean, it's just it's terrible that you know, especially back in those days. Well, and you know, that girl talked about it on the video, this last video that we put out, um where she said, you know, how do you basically control a population as you show how barbaric and evil people we used to be, and then you show 'em how b evil and barbaric people are now. And that's what it struck my mind when I watched this video, because it's the truth though. People are still evil and barbaric. And I don't think it was like, oh, it's because we used to be. I think it's because it's how people are, you know what I mean? And and we want to be taken care of and have everything and all this stuff. And it's like once you get it, that power is not enough. You know? And so we have to figure out how to, you know, with these corporations when they're like feeding, you know, mom and pop at home malto meal or oatmeal, and they're like, I don't really know if I like the oatmeal. It's okay, we're gonna go sacrifice 200,000 kids and find out if we can get some text so that we can put on that label to make sure that you buy our oatmeal instead of that malto meal. Like, holy crap.
SPEAKER_11I mean, it's all just it's all about money.
SPEAKER_10So if if they could do that, then why couldn't they bring down three buildings in New York City? To start a war so they can get their you know, insurance money and all this stuff, man. Trillions of dollars.
Times Square Prayer And Street Tension
SPEAKER_01But he went for nine million and they bought a 4.5 million.
SPEAKER_12We really can't forget that day, that horrific day that we were attacked on our own country, our own church. And it happened right here, and that's why it's really not appropriate to build a mosque. Just as just insensitive, we're wide open to religious freedom, anonymous money.
SPEAKER_21I would like you know, Americans to understand that whatever whatever extremists did on 9-11 does not represent all of Muslims or all of Islam.
SPEAKER_17Are you watching closely?
SPEAKER_13You see those?
SPEAKER_02People are stupid.
SPEAKER_20Tell me about what's going on here today. So today we are doing we do this every year, and it is called Tarawi in Times Square. So Ramadan has entered for the Muslims, and Tarawi is a prayer that we pray every night. And so today the main purpose is just to show everyone what that looks like. Um, to show people and show uh teach people what Islam really is about, what the Quran actually says, rather than the things that are being shown in left and right in the media and whatever have you. So it's about clarity, it's about uh it's about building a community and things of that nature. And have you organized it personally? Are you with uh is it with a company? The organizer is my brother.
SPEAKER_13Do you think this is the behavior of a Christian? Do you think our actual Christian brothers and sisters behave like this? No. These are the extremist far-right versions of the Christians. This isn't what Christianity teaches you. What did Christianity teach you? Let me teach you, let me show you something. Come and bring your cheek over here so I can slap and you can turn the other cheek.
SPEAKER_17People are stupid. The messaging you just heard is going through hundreds of mosques a day in New York City. I went to Little Palestine in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, and just look at how many mosques surrounded me. If you think this event in Times Square is just some isolated event and that Islam is not really spreading here, just look what happens when I try to do some street interviews in Little Palestine.
SPEAKER_15I'm doing a a video right now on on uh this area, and I was wondering if I could just ask you one question. Uh Arabic? Hi. Can I ask you a question? Is that okay? I'm from Manhattan. Do you speak English? Only Arabic? Does anybody speak English here?
SPEAKER_14If you steal something, Sharia law says you should get your hand cut off. Do you agree with that?
SPEAKER_20Do you not agree with that? It's not for me to agree or disagree, right? But in when it comes to UK or US, and they say Sharia Law is coming to come into these countries.
SPEAKER_13First of all, please make sure that we are giving them out in hand.
SPEAKER_20Just making sure I'm mistaken. Okay, so first of all, in the UK and the US, when it comes to them being scared that Sharia Law is coming, right? Um, it is not we in Islam, we actually honor the law of the land.
SPEAKER_02People are stupid.
SPEAKER_20Islam directly challenges the multi-billion dollar industries that uh we don't stand for, such as photography, such as alcohol, such as what you can go on and on. Things that are genuinely draining not just individuals of a society or community, but communities as a whole, the nation as a whole, Islam is a clear threat to these industries. And so naturally from the beginning, Islam has been shot down.
SPEAKER_02People are stupid.
SPEAKER_20Because it challenges those who aim to make a fortune off of the downfall of others. Yes. And Islam is not like that.
SPEAKER_13This is their religion, this is what their beliefs are, that the best of profits were doing the hateest and nastiest of acts. They hold the murder weapon on their necks! This is the thing, this is the fact that's their own. They troll their profit, they troll their time! So are you surprised that they try to draw our profit?
SPEAKER_14What do you say to these folks who are saying there's so many moss in New York City? Why do you have to pray outside? What do you say to those people?
SPEAKER_16Um it's about the concern, but like we have the permits, so what is it's not none of their it's not their concern. We own the buildings, we have the permits. What are they gonna do?
SPEAKER_13Yeah.
SPEAKER_16He has the right to free speech. He can't he can't assault anyone, that's what the NOPD is here.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_16If you notice a lot of them, a lot of cops they're Muslim, they got beards, if you read their names, Mohammed, Noor, they're all Muslim. They're not gonna attack you. But if you if you have the right to free speech. A lot of them. You can read their names, Mohammed, Noor, they have it on their tag. I want to be a spark police officer. I'm in the army. This is this is a free country, we have a right to free speech, with the right to religion. The free religion.
SPEAKER_14Uh we have the right to have our own religion. Yeah. And you can get in those too. Um, why do you think that there is so much Islamophobia in America?
SPEAKER_16Well, I'd say mostly because of the terrorism from the 2001 to 2006 era, maybe a bit before that as well. A lot of propaganda from the Bush administration and so on from there as well. And then there's also the fact that a lot of us is not the same skin color as a lot of the protesters that are here. If you notice they're all Caucasian white.
SPEAKER_02People are stupid.
SPEAKER_16It just happens to be the the organizations that are carrying it out happen to be Muslim.
SPEAKER_14That's not something we can control. It just happens to be, or are they f like in in the Quran, I know it says to strike at the necks of disbelievers. Do you think that that might be causing some of the terrorism? That war is related to war.
SPEAKER_16If you're at war, that is something you do. Brothers! The Quran has many different chapters.
SPEAKER_14One of them have many of them are about war and how to conduct yourself. After 9-11, there was a motion to build a mosque on ground zero. Do you think It was actually a pretty well-known thing? Um Obama was supportive of it, and a few other people were supportive of it. Obama was supportive of it? Yeah, he was. That's a bit strange.
SPEAKER_16I personally wouldn't because people would have people wouldn't agree with that. Yeah. It doesn't matter what I believe. People wouldn't agree with that. The people there, the people who go to pay there would be assaulted. There would be mad, uh, there would be a lot of public speech here. It doesn't make sense. I'm not sure why Obama would support it, but I'm not educated on the matter of why they wanted a must everybody. I wouldn't want it because if I went to pay there, I feel like I would get assaulted.
SPEAKER_13You see, my brothers and sisters, I cannot blame a moron who doesn't know anything about Islam. That's his job to not understand and to try to say the nastiest of things about our brother. But what about you? Don't you understand Islam? Don't you understand the significance? So when his name is mentioned, I want it to come from your core in your chest. And I want you to say it from your heart. Sallallahu alayhi wa salah.
SPEAKER_08People are stupid.
Rapid Weird Clips And Strange Laws
SPEAKER_08Moving along, let's check in with Alex Jones for an Epstein case update. Jeffrey Epstein is a blood-drinking, child raping, child-eating devil worshipper. Same. Thanks for the update, Alex.
SPEAKER_03Strange facts, you may have never known.
SPEAKER_11In Rhode Island, finding off another person's leg is illegal. It's a strange fact, you may I have never known.
SPEAKER_10Only there?
SPEAKER_11Probably not. I mean, I would imagine it's probably illegal everywhere, but you know, they they put it out there on the strange facts that you may have never known, so I figured I'd give it to y'all. In Rhode Island, it is illegal to bite off somebody else's leg.
SPEAKER_09Damn it.
SPEAKER_11So, you know, may maybe we could try it somewhere else and see.
SPEAKER_10Well, when did they change that?
SPEAKER_11Well, you know. I think, you know, it's probably uh one of those weird laws that they've had on uh, you know, record for whatever, you know.
SPEAKER_10Did they have issues with people biting people's legs off? That's insane.
SPEAKER_11You know, what the frick?
SPEAKER_10How does that task force get developed?
SPEAKER_11It maybe wasn't even a real leg, too. I can see her hungry. Stop looking at her leg turn around, walk away. Result in the world. Don't do it, man. It'll change your life. That was insane. I mean, you know, so yeah.
SPEAKER_10I mean, I'm I'm pretty sure it's frowned upon. Everywhere to bite off somebody's leg in the other 49 states.
SPEAKER_11I'm pretty sure probably.
SPEAKER_10Probably not in Canada, though. It's probably okay in Canada.
SPEAKER_11Yo, eh, let's go bite off somebody's leg, eh? They're weird up there.
SPEAKER_10That's insane, dude. I told you it was a good one. We still have our legs because we live in Colorado.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, so I'm pretty sure it's illegal here too.
SPEAKER_10So but I haven't seen people running around biting people's legs off here. That's only in Rhode Island.
SPEAKER_11Only in Rhode Island, so they had to make it home.
SPEAKER_10And the Aurora Mall, maybe.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. If you've been to the Aurora Mall, you know what we're talking about. Yeah. So we're sketchy people there. Zombies.
SPEAKER_02People are stupid.
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